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| Differences and similarities in Chinese martial arts |
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| Group: Moderator Level:  Posts: 71 Joined: 8/19/2004 IP-Address: saved  | Here in Europe, and perhaps throughout the Occident in general, there is much division between practitioners of Chinese martial arts. One continuously encounters discussions pertaining to the supposed superiority of one style over another. Sometimes the level of discourse resembles that of two adversaries in an 1970s Shaw Brothers movie: "My Mantis Boxing can beat your Taiji Fist any day! "Oh, yeah, well come on you bastard! I killed your Master, and I'll kill you, too!" As amusing as this sometimes is, it is clearly a childish endeavor and is detrimental to martial arts in general. Of course, there do exist significant differences in the actual techniques of various styles, but the similarities are actually more significant. Now, there are probably between 300 and 400 styles of Chinese martial arts, and we can categorize them in various ways; Northern and Southern, internal and external, Shaolin and Wudang, etc.,etc. But no matter how you divide these styles, the guiding principles remain the same. For example, in all Chinese martial arts the practitioner seeks to train effectively three things: speed, power, and techniques. Moreover, the development of speed, power, and the martial techniques which define a style must follow certain basic rules. Developing muscle power, for example, must not hinder your speed, and, inversely, speed training should not decrease your muscular power. Training methods must also be appropriate to the style. For example, in tanglangquan grabbing and plucking are very important and must be emphasized. O.K., one could say that the above is self-evident, but there are deeper priniples that bind all Chinese martial arts. The most important, perhaps, lies in the Chinese concept of Qi and Qi training in the martial arts. In traditional Chinese martial arts all styles, both internal and external, have Qigong training. In all styles one speaks of concepts such as Yi,Qi, and Li. The principle of the six coordinations, three external (wai san he)and three internal (nei san he) is applicable to all Chinese martial arts. Being that Chinese culture is the fabric within which every Chinese martial art has developed these points are of no surprise. But we seem to forget the similarties. We ignore the underlying principals, and emphasize the differences. This leads to conflict between practitioners and gives martial arts a bad name. Shouldn't we try to avoid this? Let's celebrate the similarities! | ||
| 9/28/2004 8:20:03 PM |    | ||
| ED. |
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| Group: User Level:  Posts: 46 Joined: 9/3/2004 IP-Address: saved | cool sean ist wieder da!  very interesting point sean, thx! | ||
| 9/28/2004 8:45:59 PM |  | ||
| M.K. |
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| Group: Administrator Level:  Posts: 2314 Joined: 7/13/2004 IP-Address: saved |
That's not easy. Especially in the Ving Tsun/Wing Chun/Wing Tsun-Style. Too many people are only interested in making money. That is not a good basic for becoming 'friends'. | ||
| 9/29/2004 2:54:30 PM | | ||
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| Group: User Level: Posts: 51 Joined: 7/17/2004 IP-Address: saved | you do not need to be friends to develop an deeper understanding of a foreign martial art.... yet it might reduce the pain in expereinceing them ;) finding similarities, is even more interesting in styles that look significantly differnt from far away... like choy lee fut and Ving Tsun.... even the total basics are way off, yet there are a feew fighting strategies very similar... they use very powerful long movements , yet the do not block liek in karate but very contorlled stop a deense breaking attack close to someting that is like the centerline in VT, to keep the fist directly in an attacking position afterwards... same effect like pak sao or jut sao in Ving Tsun differences is as intersting to observe... how do others develop speed, and how to they proceed during a fight an so on... if you compare styles like WT and VT which are direct relatives (OK at least on paaper  ) it is more difficult, for they have a bigger interest to show that theri way is the more logical and effecive..... the differneces are "looking" smaller and are bigger... it is not possible to explain in easy words the advantages, for the logical principles are "theoretically close to te same" but at the same time the practical appoach is totally different in many places... you only can explain by "hitting" (hard or soft) and show the other that your way works diffenrt... if you only wnat to fit it in words you usually would get the answer "thats what we do too".....if someone want to make money... let him make it.... if people follow him... but what about the people who want to really explore more... now lets invite them for exchange.... What will the answer be.... "You want to challange me!?!" what would be our idea if being invited to a place of them? I still never had any bad experiences with encounters with students of other styles... some are stout headed like hell, some are easy to impress... but the first ones seem to think more later it seems sometimes... the problem is that many try to rather convince the opponent than looking for pure exchange.... so lets become more open ourselves... | ||
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